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The Meaning of Travel With Emily Thomas

In this wide-ranging interview, Emily Thomas talks about the importance of perspective and time in travel writing, how sublime moments of pleasurable terror make travel so interesting, how to overcome fears both real and imaginary, as well as the ethics of doom tourism, and how VR (virtual reality) might change how we travel in future.

Dr. Emily Thomas is an associate professor in philosophy at Durham University in England. She’s also the author of several books, including The Meaning of Travel: Philosophers Abroad.

Traveling is about experiencing otherness, going to places that are new and unfamiliar and trying to figure out how to make sense of them
Sublime moments in travel as a kind of pleasurable terror
Tackling fears, both real and imagined
Research before a trip, and arriving in Malawi, Africa
How do travel books blur the line between fiction and nonfiction, and why is this so important to address stereotypes
“There is no view from nowhere.” Perspective in travel writing
Maps as processes, and how they change over time. The importance of knowing ‘when’ a book was written and the perspective of the writer.
Doom tourism
How VR (virtual reality) might improve aspects of travel, and what we want to keep as in-person experiences
Recommended travel books

You can find Emily at www.EmilyThomasWrites.co.uk and on Twitter @emilytwrites

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Untethered. A Woman’s Search For Self On The Edge Of India With C.L. Stambush

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How can we adopt an untethered attitude to life, especially when it comes to expectations of travel? C.L. Stambush talks about how her experience of motor-cycling around India taught her more about herself, and how she brings that to her daily life. We also talk about connecting with people across cultural and language barriers, when taking risks is worth it, and how we need to keep pushing the boundaries of our comfort zone to live a more expansive life.

C.L. Stambush is an award-winning writer, journalist, editor and author of Untethered: A Woman’s Search for Self on the Edge of India.

Show notes

Taking risks and discovering that life improves because of it
Riding alone on a motorcycle around India
Breaking down barriers when we travel to different cultures
Getting over our fears around traveling
If we are not pushing forward, are we sliding backward?
Cultivating an untethered state of mind
Recommended travel books

You can find C.L. Stambush at clstambush.com

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A Pilgrim In The Path Of History. Solo Walking The Camino De Santiago Portuguese Coastal Route With J.F. Penn

Podcast, Travel Memoir

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In September 2022, I walked the Camino de Santiago along the Portuguese Coastal route. It was around 300 kilometers from Porto in Portugal north along the coast and then inland to Santiago de Compostela, Spain, which took 14 days of back-to-back walking.

I walked alone and carried my pack with everything in it, and I organized my accommodation through Macs Adventure so I knew where I was sleeping every night. I’ve posted a day by day breakdown of the route and my gear list separately, and in this episode, I go through some of my lessons and thoughts from the Way.

JFPenn at Farolim de Felgueiras lighthouse, Porto

Show notes

How walking in the path of history puts life in perspective
If you’ve lost direction in life, pilgrimage can help
Pilgrimage proves you can do hard things, and that knowledge helps back in your daily life
A fusion of sacred and secular
The Camino is an industry — and it always has been
Your Camino, your way. Practical considerations and tips.
Why I needed these last years of walking alone across a seasonal change in my life

I’m working on my pilgrimage book, combining aspects of the emotional and spiritual journey with practical tips which will hopefully help you if you are considering such a trip. You can find more details at jfpenn.com/pilgrimage.

Shaping The World In Profound And Unexpected Ways. Bolivia With Shafik Meghji

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From the silver mines of empire to lithium mining under gigantic salt flats, Bolivia has played a significant part in history and is now shaping the future of green technology. Shafik Meghji talks about the diversity of the country from its landscape to its people and religious ceremonies, as well as recommended places to visit, and books to read.

Shafik Meghji is an award-winning travel writer, journalist, and author, specializing in Latin America and South Asia. He has co-authored more than 40 guidebooks. His latest book is Crossed Off the Map: Travels in Bolivia.

Show notes

Bolivia’s geographical diversity and recommended places to visit, including the largest salt flats in the world
The unexpected ways Bolivia has influenced and shaped the world
Indigenous culture and architecture
Festivals and other religious and cultural events, including the dance of the devils and the witches’ market
Balancing the desire to travel with environmental responsibility
Recommended books about Bolivia

You can find Shafik Meghji at ShafikMeghji.com

Sacred Steps. Pilgrimage With Kevin Donahue

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How is pilgrimage different from just a long walk? Why do we feel a calling to pilgrimage even when not religious? How does pilgrimage connect us to our physicality, and simplify life so we find some perspective? Kevin Donahue talks about some of his ‘sacred steps’ on various pilgrimage routes across Europe.

Kevin Donahue began walking pilgrimage routes in 2019 and hosts the ‘Sacred Steps Podcast,’ where he discusses pilgrimage with fellow pilgrims. He’s currently writing a book, Sacred Steps: A Pilgrim’s Journal, out in 2023.

Show notes

How is pilgrimage different from a long walk?
Why pilgrimage resonates even to those who are not religious
Highlights of Kevin’s pilgrimage, including the crossing to Holy Island, Lindisfarne
The challenges of pilgrimage — and the gifts that only emerge later
Tips for the Camino Portuguese route — wear shoes with thicker soles for the cobblestones!
Recommended books on pilgrimage

You can find Kevin Donahue at SacredStepsPodcast.com and on Instagram @kevincdonahue

You can listen to my interview on Kevin’s podcast about my pilgrimage to Canterbury here.

Long Term Sustainable Travel. Life As A Digital Nomad With Nora Dunn

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Nora Dunn sold everything in 2006 and went traveling, turning her dream of culturally immersive, long-term sustainable travel into a reality. But of course, it hasn’t been an easy ride over the years!

We talk about finding home bases in different places around the world — and why Peru was particularly memorable, how ‘slow travel’ makes long-term digital nomadism more sustainable, tips for working on the road, and the more existential questions of whether travelers can ever stay still for long.

Nora Dunn, The Professional Hobo, has been a digital nomad since 2006. She is a professional speaker, podcaster, and the author of How to Get Free Accommodation Around The World, as well as Tales of Trains, Where The Journey is The Destination. She has lived in and traveled through almost 70 countries and specializes in financially sustainable travel.

Why Nora left her financial planning practice, sold everything, and went traveling — for the long term
Finding home bases in different places around the world — and why Peru was particularly memorable
How ‘slow travel’ makes long-term digital nomadism more sustainable
Tips for working on the road — and switching away from a ‘vacation’ mindset
The ‘work’ of travel
Common fears and how to deal with them
Tips for financially sustainable travel
Recommended travel books

You can find Nora at TheProfessionalHobo.com and on Twitter @hobonora

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